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's national political correspondent jim acosta reports from iowa right now where romney held a rally earlier in the day. jim. >> reporter: wolf, the romney campaign is clearly feeling good, but at the same time top advisors are trying to downplay the importance of a slew of new polls showing the gop nominee now in a real horse race with president obama in a sign that all of this has gotten the president's attention. this campaign has suddenly turned into a race over small things or rather one big bird. plowing into his proposals to help american farmers, mitt romney had poultry on his mind in iowa. of the eight-foot and yellow variety as he accused the president of fouling up the nation's weak recovery. >> you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving big bird. i actually think we need to have a president who talks about saving the american people and saving good jobs and saving our future. >> one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. big bird. >> reporter: it was a direct response to the latest ad from the obama campaign. >> mitt romne
. wolf. >> jim acosta, thank you. and this remiepder, mitt romney will join me live right here in "the situation room" at 6:00 p.m. eastern. that's only here on cnn. much more on this story coming up. >>> meanwhile, in ohio and elsewhere both campaigns are ramping up their get out the vote efforts. and that's uncovering a problem that didn't exist before the housing crisis hit. cnn's national correspondent deborah feyerick explains. >> reporter: wolf, this is a group of voters both candidates are trying to win over. >> hi, you guys registered to vote? have you moved in the last four years? >> reporter: few shoppers at this save-a-lot supermarket in columbus, ohio, get past her without first answering her questions. >> okay. i need your last four of your social. have a wonderful day. thank you. >> reporter: rob innson lost her job and on the verge of losing her home. losing the ability to vote is not an option. not for her and not for others in the same situation. do you think it can make a difference in this election? >> i think everybody needs to vote. and, yes, i do. >> reporter: sin
the race trending, tightening, trending towards romney, at least right now, we begin with peter alexander, traveling with the romney campaign. >> reporter: brian, good evening to you, a romney adviser tells me that the campaign is stronger, that the candidate is increasingly confident. he tried to draw a sharp contrast on the issue of national security. with just 29 days to go, following the last debate, the race is quickly tightening, but remains volatile. the polls had different results. the latest poll shows romney leads, now up four points between the likely voters, but a new gallup poll shows the president up by five. looking to capitalize on his momentum, today, romney tried to frame himself as a steady commander-in-chief, and in what his campaign feels is a major foreign policy speech, accusing president obama of weak leadership. >> i know that president obama hopes for a stronger and more prosperous middle east, but hope is not a strategy. >> reporter: and calling for a change of course, but offering few new policy details, romney argued that the middle east is a more dangerous pl
is right. does governor romney put any stock in those theories and have any suspicions at all about the bls numbers? >> george, the numbers themselves are very damning. when you look at it, we had fewer jobs created in september than were created in august, fewer jobs created in august than were created in july. our unemployment rate has come down because for -- since president obama took office for every new job created more than six workers have left the labor force. if labor force participation was what it was when the president took office, unemployment would be around 10.7%. these jobs that were added in september were largely part-time jobs. so we still have 23 million american, that number has not changed at all, would are either unemployed or out of work entirely or are underemployed working or out of the workforce entirely or underemployed working part time instead of full time or not in a job commensurate with their skills, half of the college students coming out of, you know, with degrees today are unable to find a job. this economy is not doing well and the fact that you have a
) folks, i am not surprised that romney crushed it. because this debate was right in his wheelhouse. soul-crushing. in fact, it was so tedious i think man in the front row fell asleep. (laughter) the first half hour, the first half hour, folks. (applause) the first half hour was an or geoof tax policy minutish-- orgy was tax policy minutia, and they moved on to the intricacies of medicare solvency it was off the hook, in that it would have been more interesting to listen to a dial tone. (laughter) but however wonky it got last night there was no miss tacking that there was a fire breathing leftie on that stage spewing heated socialist rhetoric. >> i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work if you don't have regulation. preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. and with regards to health care wa, we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation, state-by-state. >> stephen: yes, mitt romney's health-care plan is just like his positions, the details change state-by-state. (laughter) now-- folks, you know me--
is mitt romney. >> tax, education, reproductive rights. >> you want to know my position on issues, ask me and i'll tell. >> you when you're mitt romney, what's wrong with a little change of heart. >> romney's flipped again. >> it's what he said about abortion. >> a woman's right to chose. >> a new romney promise. >> new policies, new statements, and new beliefs. >> no new abortion laws. >> here's what he told the des moines register yesterday. >> i didn't say that would become part of my agenda. >> here is moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i've missed you. >> basically calling him a liar. >> lied about what? he's been saying this all long. >> my presidency will will be a pro life presidency. >> do i believe supreme court should overturn roe v. wade? >> i will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose. >> what is going on with the romney message? >> a lot of people are confused. >> if you want to know my position on issues, ask me and i'll tell you. >> i'm going to ask you a question. >> ask me and i'll tell you. >> are you a wizard? >> there are 27 days until the election. >> just
is doing. mitt romney right sit in a rocker chair on the porch and play with his grandchildren. >> bill: all right. veronica you summed it up. mitt romney as you summed it up has no connection to the middle class. born with a silver spoon in his mouth. can't identify. and he doesn't really have a grasp of what is happening in this country or around the world. i think he proved that yesterday. ronnie is in phoenix, arizona. good morning. >> caller: good morning, bill how are you doing? >> bill: i'm good. good to hear from you. >> caller: i did hear his speech yesterday, and i have to tell myself george w. bush. basically the people that write his speeches, are they all george w. bush's people? and it made no sense to me that we had to hear that all over again. >> bill: yeah and george bush took us into two wars in the middle east, and which we have paid everything for, and -- and that's -- that's the bush legacy, and a lot of talk about bringing a democracy to the middle east, and nothing hand. >> caller: correct. and i have a question about the pew poll. it made no s
is convinced that florida, north carolina and virginia are going to go for romney? >> that's right. >> bill: major polling agency pulling out of some key swing states, saying president obama is certain to lose there. does karl rove believe that? he will be here. >> that line were crossed by iran and they were very close, you wouldn't oppose military action to stop their nuclear program? >> i wouldn't oppose military action. but the question is where the line is. >> bill: ben affleck has a new movie about iran causing controversy. he will visit as well. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> bill: hi. i'm bill o'reilly. will libya become a major scandal fort obama administration? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. today a house committee held hearings on the giant screwup that occurred immediately after our ambassador to libya, christopher stevens, was asassed on september 11. many believe the obama administration initially covered up what was a terrorist attack by saying the violence might have been generated by an anti-mu
. >> the news edge at 11 starts right now. >>> mitt romney campaigning in florida today. this as president obama announced the fund raising spike for next month. mike emmanuel has the story. >> reporter: just 31 days before election day, mitt romney stumping in on the on stop negligent crucial state of florida. speaking at a rally outside of orlando, the republican nominee continued focusing on the economy. >> when it came to jobs and the e commune, he doesn't have anything to add to what he's doing the last four years. >> reporter: in the white house weekly address, president obama touted the count -- the country's unemployment rate in september. >> and on friday, we learned the unemployment rate is at the lowest level since i took office. more americans are entering the workforce, more americans are getting jobs. >> reporter: president obama in cleveland trapped governor romney's tax plan. >> mr. romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for. we're not going let that happen. >> no. >> reporter: the president has no public events today and is off celebrating 20 years
of the same. >> thank you. >> what we'll see in the next two debates. >> right. >> but certainly having romney commit himself to be in favor of regulation, not to cut taxes for the top, these are steps in the right direction if he actually lives by them. >> not just that, but the president was able to capitalize the next day. there were ads the next day using those lies. it's like a transcript. we read these things. when we read them we think lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. >> there were a few moments. there are some people who say this is strategic. one of the thing that's interesting in understanding the debate is the continuity of it. we keep being surprised by who barack obama is when he's just been the same the whole time. every time he doesn't fight hard enough. people are like, why isn't he fighting? watch this tape that our producers put together of critiques of barack obama's debate performance in the past. this is not last night's debate. take a look. >> a lot of the pundants are saying this was not a very strong performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the
right now. >>> happening now, mitt romney rips apart president obama's foreign policy and takes the lead in a brand-new poll that is being released right now. >>> also, more than 100 cases of meningitis now reported in an outbreak caused by a tainted steroid. the death toll is climbing as well. >>> plus, behind the scenes of a death-defying record attempt. a supersonic jump from the edge of space. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this just coming in, a major shake-up in the polls. only 29 days before the presidential election. mitt romney clearly riding very high since his strong showing in the first presidential debate. and now he has taken the lead in a closely watched and highly respected poll. take a look at these numbers just released by the pew research center. mitt romney now four points ahead of president obama among likely voters nationwide, erasing the president's eight-point lead before the first debate. let's go deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger, she's joining us. it's clear that that debate has really, really helped mitt rom
right after the debate, the poll find romney swinging ahead of president obama, 49% to 45%. due to new support from romney from women voters who at one time strongly favored the president. and romney blasting the obama administration on foreign policy yesterday. during a speech in virginia he claimed the risk of conflict in the middle east is higher now than it was when president obama took office. he urged a more aggressive u.s. role in the syrian civil war. >>> meantime, president obama campaigning on the west coast sounded an urgent note in his appeal to voter. he told supporters in san francisco they must be almost obsessive in getting out the vote. the president and mitt romney returned to the crucial state of ohio later today to campaign in that critical state. >>> first lady michelle obama is sharing a bit what goes on behind the closed dufrz the white house. in a "nightline" interview she told cynthia mcfadden she steers clear of trying to influence her husband's approximately sees instead sticking to causes like fighting childhood obesity. mrs. obama talked about how comfortab
to abortion rights to immigration, mitt romney has consistently emulated his campaign's most potent image, the etch-a-sketch and paul ryan has been right there with them. rape is rape says the candidate who previously co-sponsored legislation that drew a distinction, a legal distinction between forceable rape and other kinds of rape. but now facing voters who want the truth, the campaign has changed tactics rather than fight the charge that ryan/romney are not telling the truth, republicans have a new idea and it's a doozy. simply attack the president and democrats for even questioning romney's truthfulness. >> the other side well, he lied his way through that whole debate. how did you feel about that? >> lie about what? this is something that he's been saying all along. it's sort of like someone that is in a sandbox and lost the game and they are going to kick sand and say, you liar. >> it seems pretty clear that their new strategy is basically just call us liars to descend us down into a mud and people get demoralized and then they can win by default. >> karl rove writes in "the wall st
up tonight, the ryan/romney -- >> this is someone who has been a hero of right wing idealogs. he is going to go out there before the american people and renounce what his entire career has been, which is working and working as part of the right-wing republican caucus and being a champion. is he going to sell that out on the national stage? >> catch up with chris hayes saturdays and sundays from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. eastern and krystal on "the cycle" right here at 3:00 prk m. on msnbc. >>> coming up, shocking comments from an ally of paul ryan. comments that are now forcing mr. ryan to drop his old friend after he says, quote, some girls rate easy. >>> plus, new problems for moderate mitt romney. a new tape from three years ago surfaces. this time, he's praising glenn beck. >>> and great news, things are getting better so the right-wing conspiracy theorists have hit the halls of congress. you're watching a special edition of "politicsnation." as we get ready for the big vice president debate in kentucky, the place for politics, msnbc. >> the people in my neighborhood, they get
credentials. back at a meeting this february. the right wing romney is no more. according to what happened this wednesday night. this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do that. he stayed right through the summer and masterfully, wednesday, started to go i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, i'm for education and all this good stuff. >> i think part of that, you're right, in your analysis there. that's what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had shoring up to do with their base. >> can you pull it off? can you make that switcharoo in september. >>
tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that says the economy is moving in the right direction. i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. much more than levels variables, like the level of the unemployment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> thank you jared bernstein for coming on. >> thank you. >>> who is that masked moderate man on the debate stage, the guy who plans no $5 trillion tax cuts? who won't cut education, insists his health care plan covers people with pre-existing conditions. it's the same guy who now says his 47% comments were wrong. did mitt romney take his mask off or has the emperor got no clothes. >>> also, we're beginning to learn more about the flawed strategy that caused president obama to lay a debate egg wednesday night. one thing they agree on, it can't happen again. it best not happen again. >>> and unemployment rate dropped sharply last month. add rick santorum and newt gingrich to the list of republicans who would like to see big bird on the unemployment line. i guess they've had to much education, those
the president having a 7-point lead before the debate. in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives the president an edge of 2 points. that poll in iowa shows a gain for mr. obama, a 5-point gain. in florida, the same poll shows a 4-point swing for romney. he's up by 2 points. so the major fall or minor lift, however, you rattle the number lose, as the overall national polling shifts and the swing state races shift with them, the state where the romney campaign is hoping for the biggest shift of all is in ohio. in modern political history, ohio has been the path to the presidency for republican candidates. if republican candidates win ohio, they win the white house. if mitt romney doesn
the hammer down on sesame street. >> although mitt romney clearly won the debate, the obama campaign right away on thursday managed to crystallized the public's funny bone. a cross between a funny bone and a hot nerve reaction to defend big bird and company. that was thursday. then on friday, the obama campaign got that huge jobs report with unemployment falling below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency. unemployment above 8% has been a favorite talking point for mitt romney and that talking point on friday went kaput. and the country has now had the best election year improvement in the unemployment numbers since ronald reagan ran for reelection in 1984. remember the morning in america thing, that's what it was about. so mitt romney may have won the debate, but president obama won the post debate. at least it seemed that way for these last few days. then today back down to earth for democrats. we started getting in the first solid round of polling that reflected the results of the debate. and however, well the obama campaign did in managing the post debate spin and the post deba
from the romney campaign saying obama is not good enough on women's rights. really? should you vote for mitt romney based on women's rights? >> not now not ever! >> damn straight, come on! but you know what? it worked. she's going to be an on peers morgan. >> we have a you tube star, ask trisha and the stripper diaries. let's see why she's in favor of romney. >> i'm not saying be a republican like me, because i don't push my beliefs on people. the man i'm voting for is not heene christian, he's like mormon. romney ryan, 2012. yay! >> that's rick santorum's idea of a good catholic. you vote for the republican party see how that turns out for you. i'm going to throw both of you in the middle of the ring. watch out! i feel kind of bad and they were slightly transgender there which they're not in real life.
on the far right. i ordered it. >> did you do this only after the obama/romney debate? >> right after the debate? >> just right after the debate. >> you took the news story. i want to see you in that. why aren't you wearing it? reporter involvement. >> next time. >> next time. the metcalfe brothers had a staring contest to see who'd get the last bite of dessert. four old roommates debated whether asia was or wasn't the greatest '80s supergroup ever. and a surprise birthday party caught amanda sullivan totally off-guard. all over delicious entrees like new smoky chipotle chicken fajitas from our $20 dinner for two. chili's -- more life happens here. and the family car to do an experiment. we put a week of her family's smelly stuff all in at once to prove that febreze car vent clips could eliminate the odor. then we brought her family to our test facility to see if it worked. [ woman ] take a deep breath, tell me what you smell. something fresh. a beach. a clean house. my new car. [ woman ] go ahead and take your blindfolds off. oh!! hahahaha!!! look at all this garbage!!! [ male announ
>>> taxes, education, reproductive rights when you're mitt romney what's wrong with a little change of heart? it's wednesday, october 10th, and this is "now." >>> joining me today, msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson, the golden throat. the host of msnbc's the cycle steve kornacki, msnbc contributor and queen bee of thegrio.com joy reid and new york times magazine editor mr. sunday morning himself, hugo lingren. there are 27 days to the election, meaning we still have time for 27 new and exciting policy shifts from governor mitt romney. and who better than the country's explainer in chief to outline the paradox of the mittens. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought -- i thought wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i missed you all these last two years. >> call it the merry go mitt. governor romney has completed a full 360-degree rotation, changing his views so many times on -- so many times on some of his core beliefs that he's right back to where he started decades ago.
anybody knows what mitt romney thinks about whether a woman should have the right to choose. what i think is he's governed by the loudest, strongest voices in his own party. he makes fear-based decisions in that sense, and given that, and given the extremes to which the republican party has come on every issue concerning women and their bodies, whether that's planned parenthood funding, shutting down the last remaining abortion clinic in certain parts of the country, or the basic question of a woman's right to choose, they have shanghaied this party on the fringes of the right. mitt romney, why should we think he will do anything differently. >> and he has yet to show any strength at any point in this campaign of standing up to the right when they put pressure on him. on the issue of abortion, the differences between the two tickets could not have been clearer or the stakes more evident. here is paul ryan on why he opposes a woman's right to choose. let's listen to the man himself. >> i believe that life begins at conception. that's why -- those are the reasons why i'm pro-life. now, i un
job of it, talking about who is the boss and the boss is governor romney. >> laura: all right, lou, great to see you. have a great weekend. >> you too. >> laura: when we come right back, martha raddatz questions the can cats on abortion. -- raddatz on abortion. we will hear from both sides coming up. if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ i have a great fit with my dentures. i love kiwis. i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free -- it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles so you're more comfortable and confident while you eat. super poligrip free made the kiwi an enjoyable experience.
, look, this is a problem of the president of the united states-- >>> he was right -- >> mitt romney was right. >> i think there is eighths bit of difference that you have to give to the president -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: this white house. >> it is not-- >>> eric bowling i. wow. difference to the president? they have done nothing but coverup and stonewalled to make sure we department know what was coming out. we find out that state department has one story and the white house -- and the intel -- >> no, no, no. >> hold on. >> sean: joe biden is the white house. >> last night, joe biden said the white house had no intelligence, we didn't know 24 hours, or five days after-- >>> that's not true. we know that james clapper from the dni had told the state department, he told the white house what was going on, it was a terror attack. joe biden conveniently last night said, we had no idea. also, he said the state department never asked for security leading up to the terror attack. we have had the state department tell everybody, the world, in congressional hearing, guess what? we d
preoccupied with the gop base, romney has decided to junk the right wing red meat and start talking to swing voters. it seems to be working. he's trailed in real clear politics poll but now he's pulled ahead. there is a problem with the story line, though. romney actually hasn't moved to the middle at all. at least not in any meaningful, substantive way. he didn't in last week's debate and he hasn't on the campaign trail since then. what he has done is kind of brilliant, though n a devious way. mitt romney understands the actual policy positions that the republican party now stands for. the positions romney had to swear up and down that he shares in order to win the republican nomination on basically poison in a general election, so he's just pretenned he doesn't have those views. take that debate clip that romney said people with preexisting conditions would have nothing to worry about urn his health care plan. that's a moderate thing to say and what swing voters would want to hear. they would be upset denying insurance to the sick but that's exactly what would happen under romney's plan, w
supporter how real is the possibility right now that mitt romney can win this election? >> steve, thanks for having me on. we ought to all take a deep breath. campaigns have twists and turns. last week was a challenging week for the president and the campaign but there's 27 days left to go. the president has the right, forward-looking agenda. coming to colorado, people here care about issues and clear contrasts of governor romney and president obama. we have a diverse state coming to the geography. eastern plains growing the foods and we have the mountains and canyons to the west of the front range. you say the same thing in every area of colorado to serve the state. i didn't hear that from governor romney. i'm not sure which governor romney showed up last week but shaken the etch-a-sketch and next couple of weeks americans have a clear contrast of president and governor romney and the positions that governor romney's taken over the last couple of years. you need somebody who's consistent as president. >> senator, i love colorado but i want to talk about the senate for a moment. >> yes.
it on cbs "early today." >> right now the romney campaign is running away from some of their positions like unwanted stepchildren, but we're going to hold them to them and explain to the country exactly what the differences are here because the choice is very stark. >> what do you make of that? >> this is always -- it's interesting, this has always been their position. back in the spring i had a conversation with david plouffe where he said, you know, this choice between flip-flopper and hard right conservative is a false choice. >> have they meat up their mind yet? >> he said we're going to do both. when he tries to flip and flop we'll call him coreless but try to pin him back -- >> what's better -- >> extremism. >> that's what i said. everybody thinks politicians are politicians, and that they flip. they all believe that. >> that's their point. their point is you can say both. look, he's lying to you here. he's being coreless, being phony, but this is what he actually believes. it's exactly what axelrod is saying. the phrase someone used in the campaign back in the spring is we need to fr
for perjury. mitt romney are committed himself to things that the right and renot going live up to. a fish would not get caught if they kept their mouth shut. >> jon: here's -- >> here's your problem. here's your problem, i can tell you right up straight, here is what the president did that was wrong f a frog had a helicopter he wouldn't need a bicycle, he is? -- see? hear me out. mitt romney is a bug in a conner like a chicken in a smoothie factory, doesn't make sense. si have no idea what he was talking about but at least for a few seconds, i was happy. i guess when all else fails you can also play the wild card. >> obama arrived in denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> nd you only have a few hours to adjust-- . >> jon: the at 250ud-- altitude? yes f only barack obama had been to denver before he would know the mile high city would be his water loop, he has never performed that well that far above sea level, oh wait. >> america, he cannot turn back. not with so much work to be done. not with so many children to educa
, remember the 47% remark, mitt romney said that 47% of the country, slackers, right. >> jon: slackers. >> they want stewart's money o riley's money. >> jon: can't convince them to take personal responsibility for their lives. >> would you think that barack obama would bring that up. >> jon: with you would think. >> right, to engage the 47% who don't want to be called slackers but who are. >> jon: not tone rage them, but to mobilize them. >> -- oh, i didn't see -- >> some of them are here tonight. >> jon: no but he didn't -- >> his strongest suit, we kept waiting, okay, what he is going hit him with. >> jon: do you think was strategy or do you think, it was a kind of a prevent defense kind of a thing that you thought he was doing or he really felt like he just didn't want to deal with that guy. will just make his case. >> i think mr. obama is so far ahead that he wanted to tighten up just to be exciting. just to create a little bit. >> jon: that's a very generous interpretation of that. >> he is so far out, it's like you know, you're in the third quarter, up by five touchdowns, just le
've created a quart ore of a a million new jobs right here in america. >> mitt romney holding a rally in ohio. this hour. it's about to get under way. in fact, we're going get a live update from the campaign trail in just a moment. in their weekly address, republicans also talking about the economy. it was delivered by oklahoma congressional candidate mark wayne mullet. >> he gets it. republican majority in the house has passed several bipartisan common sense proposals to address regulation that hurts jobs. >>> meanwhile police in colorado are investigating a shooting at president obama's denver campaign office. officials say people were inside when a shot was fired through the office window flid afternoon, fortunately no one was hurt. police say they have a description of what they're calling at this point a vehicle of interest. more on all of these hours throughout the next three hours right here on msnbc. >>> as we just mentioned, mitt romney packing his schedule tight today in ohio. you're looking at live pictures from portsmouth, romney's first stop before heading to another rally in leb
that's right if you look at the data. romney is in a stronger position now than he was in in august. >> so is romney, is it fair to say romney is actually leading or is this essentially a tie? >> it's essentially a tie right now. the data is so close. but romney was behind by a field goal, now he's kicked a field goal and we have a tie race going into the final weeks. >> what voter groups have moved in the last three weeks? are you talking about independents, are you talking about specific demographic groups? who has moved? >> well, one group that hasn't moved are the strong partisans. democrats and republicans who turn out are going to vote for their own nominee. the key statistic to watch with the partisans is enthusiasm. and the presidential debate clearly help the republican enthusiasm and hurt the democratic enthusiasm. on the other hand, the group to watch as far as the ballot test goes are the independents because they are much less lock into their particular pref presence at -- preference at the moment. your own poll showed that in virginia, according to wall street journal
are absolutely right. again, i compared romney's debate performance to the ryan speech in tampa. it was a good performance but it was packed with lies. i think the entire media was focusing on stage craft and performance or entertainment or acting ability and not on the substance of what they said. on the substance of what he said mitt romney simply did not tell the truth about the $5 million, about health care, about a whole lot of stuff. kevin in chicago, kevin getting rid of big bird good idea? >> caller: yeah, my granddaughter is four years old, so i'm ul up to speed on big bird. and it brings back memories of when my kids were young. >> bill: same here. >> caller: it is just an example of the crap that comes out of his mouth. they don't realize the value of putting something on tv for the kids to watch -- >> bill: and learn, yeah. >> caller: and the whole industry that has spawned off of it of the kids toy, and everything -- >> bill: you got it. big bird is a job creator. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ bit. (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed, joy beh
of the human rights oriented. the syrian issue is the one place romney can find to make a distinction. as you point out, it's a very difficult policy to enact. the syrian insurgency is really an uprising of 100 armed militias all over syria that are not particularly well connected to one another. >> you wouldn't understand the goals of the people you are arming, and there is a danger that some of this would blow back in just a way in the afghan skas where the people we armed turn into terrorists. >> it sounded me like he is saying we should allow the saudis and the qatarese to provide more assistance. not arm them ourselves. sdhoo romney implied that the administration was being deceptive, trying to convince us that the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi was a random response to the film and insulted the prophet mohammed. let's listen in and evaluate that. >> these attacks were the deliberate work of terrorists who use violence to impose their dark ideology and others, especially on women and girls who are fighting to control much of the middle east today and who seek to wage perpetual
the pace, right? to keep up with romney's performance? >> i think that there is certainly an extreme amount of pressure on paul ryan to do exactly that. if you talk to people in the romney camp they believe the debate win by mitt romney last week was absolutely critical. this came after a month or so of just horrible press for romney gaffes on the campaign trail, unforced errors and this debate give them a silver lining and a path to get past those things. if paul ryan majorly flubs this debate tonight, that is not going to be a good thing for them. that could affect the polls in a way that the campaign does not want. >> bill: what do you of this attempt to soften mitt romney to the kinder gentler side? he tried that on abortion and then the house from the tea partiers and conservatives were so extreme that two days later he had to come back and say no no no i am pro-life. >> the romney campaign will tell you they don't believe he changed his position. paul ryan said he isn't disappointed from what he saw from his running mate and they have a unified position on
to romney, which romney? the romney in the primaries that was far right or the new romney that was moderate and telling tall tales? and if he goes with the new romney, he then has to denounce everything he's stood for as paul ryan, which biden can then drill down on and say, so you're now saying that you're with this new romney and you denounce your own position on this, that or the other? that could be fatal. >> you're right. that's the stretch. away from the old romney to new romney is a stretch away from paul ryan's own record. >> i'm intrigued tonight by the moderator. she's a reporter. >> yeah. >> follow-up questions, will be interest to see if her instincts take over when something comes across she might know might not be exactly correct. >> this is msnbc's coverage of the 2012 vice presidential debate sent to get under way from centre college in danville, kentucky, in a couple minutes. i'm rachel maddow at our msnbc home base in new york city. and chris matthews is at the debate site. chris, before we head into the main event tonight, do you have any last thoughts in terms of the sta
. wow. the new mitt romney's closing remarks came right out of the bush cheney neon play book, folks. vote for us or we're going to get attacked again. >> america's security and cause of freedom cannot afford four more years like the last four years. >> mitt romney will not let americans know what his real policies are. it is the bush administration all over again. especially when it comes to foreign policy. how's that sit with you? even obama adviser robert gibbs and newt "the gary radnich shgi anything to get elected. >> mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent mitt romney had a problem with being dishonest in the primary. my problem is with, was he dishonest when he said that. >> i think it is clear his position changed. >> the only path for the white house is for voters to pretend that changes never happen pepd get your cell phones out. want to know what you think. tonight's question, who do you trust when it comes to foreign policy decisions? text a for president obama. text b for mitt romney. we will bring you the results later on in the show. go to our blog and leave a co
. >> right. >> that's the third largest on earth. the fact is what governor romney wants to do is defend these programs but if you go down the road, you're exactly right. for me, what we need to do is create a medicare when i retire that i can know will be there. the fact is i'll have to pay out of pocket. i'm fortunate enough to be a wealthy person. i'll have to pay more out of pocket than i do under the current system. i think that's the crucial thing that's going to change. >> let's break steven in. >> i like what you're talking about. i'm not working for the campaign. i can be more critical. i think the problem with what mr. romney is talking about is it takes too long to save money. this crisis is right around the corner with medicare. it's going to run out of money within the next ten years or so unless we make some changes. yes, kevin, i like what you're talking about. i agree entirely. the competition model makes sense. but i'm not so sure we have enough time. if you look at medicare, social security and medicaid, by the end of the decade, they're going to take all of our income
presidential hopeful is counting on as he moves more towards the middle on women's rights. romney generated buzz this week over remarks he made about abortion, saying access to abortion is not on his legislative agenda. regardless, he added he would defund planned parenthood and prevent use of federal funds for abortions. he continues to call himself a "pro-life candidate." meanwhile, romney shows growing support among women in the latest polls, following his strong debate performance, almost closing the gender gap. so congresswoman norton, will a more moderate mitt appeal to women voters? >> bonnie, not unless women develop political amnesia and forget the mitt of the tea party republican debates. >> as long as mitt romney is unequivocal about his economic plan and makes a clear contrast between obama's failed policies and how they have hurt women and children, his plan will be that will help women and families, i think heal continue on this can be he'll continue on this up with yard trend with women. >women. >> he shouldn't be allowed on get away with this twice. he did this in the run-of
at times. no matter who you thought benefit from it. i thought romney was going right over his head. i thought martha was reacting. she was much more structured. where i would falter, it struck me as she was conducting an interview at the table rather than moderating a debate where you give both sides equal opportunity. the idea that she favored vice president biden. because at one point, i talked to soldiers in the field that tell me the administration to pull out troops put them in greater peril. biden had to respond to that instead of respond to go ryan. >> he interrupted over 80 times. she was not moderating biden's behavior. >> i don't have the count with me. as someone sitting there watching, my impression when she would interrupt paul ryan and demanding specifics on the she was pressing out of character for a good and impartial moderator. but i saw her do the same thing on the afghan issue. >> she didn't press on the libya stuff. >> jon: you criticized for not following up. do you think she was too involved in the debate? >> it's a stylist i liked her overall performance. it's m
.9 trillion or 5 trillion. >> you're mischaracterizing the romney plan. you're right, 5 trillion by lowering the tax rates but also cuts about cutting loop holes and -- >> ahhhh. >> but that is part of the plan. >> but he won't say which loop holes and which deductions. >> joining me washington post kol columnest and author. you. >> you have a lot of heart, ed. >> i have so much heart. there are polls on the table that mitt romney is talking about. i tweeted out tonight, could we actually elect a man who has not explained his tax proposal to the american people when we're sitting supposedly on the edge of this cliff when it comes to the country's finances? e.j., your thoughts? >> i still don't think voters are going to sort of support something like this, not knowing what is in it. i've been wondering why we haven't heard more of romney was for his 5 trillion cut before he was against it. because you look at this plan and it is 5 trillion that the cuts add up to. and you've got to offset them somehow. and the only way to offset them is to go after the popular dededuction. homeowner deduction
don't come out the right way. >> are you say governor romney lied? >> i think he was dishonest. >> jon: and following failed debate performance, obama campaign revs up their spin in machine. >> how they can justify this video caused this attack. it was a terrorist attack. >> jon: congress investigates the terrorist attack in benghazi getting details. are the media interested now? candidates' wives working hard for media attention. are they getting fair treatment? and what does this photo tell us about media bias? on the panel this week, judy miller, cal thomas, jing pinkerton and fox news political analyst juan williams. i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. >> jon: big event thursday night a one night only showdown between the candidates for vice president. it was highly anticipated by the political press. first question out the gate was the controversy surrounding terrorist attacks. >> this benghazi issue would be tragedy in and of itself but unfortunately it's indicative of a broader problem, what we are watching on our tv screens the unraveling of the obama foreign policy
in romney. i mean, he is against the right for a woman to have control over her body. >> reporter: but romney supporters says reproductive rights and other social issues have not come up in her door to door campaigning. the chairman of romney's loudoun county victory effort has knocked on thousands of doors since july. >> believe it or not, different than any other election, this question has not really come up. >> reporter: she said she believes the paramount issue for women in 2012 is the economy. >> i asked them to think about where they were four years ago and how things have gone. and i just talked through, did the bailouts help you? did some of these other programs help you? did the quote/unquote shovel ready jobs help you? >> reporter: barack obama won loudoun county back in 2008. a vote that was fueled by ballots cast by suburban women. that is one reason michelle obama is here again. romney supporters hoping to turn loudoun county red this time around. for now, reporting live, julie carey, news4. >> hello, buckeyes! >> president obama himself has just wrapped up a campaig
,thara,anngen virginia are going to go for romney? >> thas right. >> bill: joining us from the college of new jersey in the garden state, man closely following thlealolle lerl r efopllet osteayg their internals show there is no way that the president can win those states. they're not even going to poll again. you say? >>ook, i think those states all end in the romney column, but i think we've got long y de.o bendfthe la,efo the debate, there were polls, three polls in florida. obama was leading by one, one and three. since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading b three and t atesngms ramos romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one pl, but romney up by one an three in another poll. north carolin that ste h tin t ry f ms, e r c tighoofore the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina after the debate and it had a romney margin of nine. the obama campaign is spending money in the state, but they've tesiuyy0%mreamount the th're ramping up in every
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york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics? is he having a problem with that? >> easy to criticize both of them for not giving enough specifics. romney has a 59-point economic plan that most people have never looked at. i would say that is probably too specific. i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a ltle problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romney. i would put a working state on one side and a welfare state on the other side and i would say america would be much, much better if dollars were earned instead of dollars awarded. it is time to stop rewarding our friends and punishing our enemies
: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of focusing on that, romney is saying, you spent two years trying to pass one of your big priorities in social legislation and that's hurt job creation, a powerful point. >> yeah, it's a good point, but i think the health care issue is not going to go away in this debate. we're going to hear more of it. barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medicare works because the insurance companies have to make a profit on top of their administrative cost, medicare doesn't have to do that and it's lowered administrative costs and therefore a better deal. he said that romney
and right by people about how romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the simpson-bowles commission and the simpson-bowles commission put out three different tax rates and each rate you will have to do something with the deductions and exemptions, eliminate all of them or retain them and romney says i'm going to drop rates and put all of those deductions and exemptions on the table for negotiation. any serious person in politics knows that's the starting point pour reworking the tax code. you don't have to get into the fine detail at this point. >> paul: kim, what do they have to do to maintain the momentum, the romney campaign. >> you see them doing this. now
? >> well, you are right, governor romney came out. he was aggressive. when do you that, you are always in danger of seeming rude or... pugneighbors. i don't think he d. -- bug -- pugnacious. high seemed to display extraordinary knowledgeability. i don't think president obama had a bad night in the sense that he was way off his game. he was a lot like the president obama we are used to hearing. i don't think he seemed rusty. but i don't think he had the spark or the energy or the precision tonight that governor romney had. governor rom he in a good night. he didn't have a big moment that becomes a sound bite and affects how people look back on the debate. but this was a strong performance by governor romney. he needed one. i think he got it. >> joe? >> i think romney did himself a lot of good tonight. he was there on the issues. he knew his stuff. he didn't back down to the president or the moderator. and he didn't -- he didn't cross the line because you can do that and i think that would have backfired on him. i watched obama debate a lot in primaries when i was with edwards and clinto
and mitt romney there. lynn? >> all right, tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks. and you can watch live coverage of tonight's debate live from danville, kentucky. that's beginning at 9:00 p.m. eastern/6:00 pacific right here on nbc. >>> a week after the first presidential debate the latest nbc news/"wall street journal"/parst poll finds that republican nominee mitt romney has surged in three swing states. governor romney's largest gain was in virginia where he now leads president obama 48% to 47%, a virtual tie and within the margin of error. in florida, president obama retains a one point lead over romney, 48 to 47%. and in that key battleground state of ohio mitt romney gained two points but the president still leads 51% to 45%. >>> well, today marks one month since the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. and yesterday the white house again denied any intentional cover-up of what led to the assault and said the investigation continues. lawmakers demanded to know how lax security may have been and whether warning signs were completely or simply ignored. n
of the great political debates of our time and i think that mitt romney was right to join it with president obama. i think president obama's policies and his political vision are fundamentally that of french democrats, rather like francois hollande. i think mitt romney's are a traditional conservative republican. i thought during the debate he sounded actually, he echoed themes that you would associate with dwight eisenhower. so i think this is a great debate to be joined politically. i think that romney is raising real risk but there are people on the left who would like to see a stronger centralized government, not just as a safety net but all of these elements and you can see what the problems are. as margaret thatcher once said, the problem with socialism that sooner or later you run out of other people's money. melissa: right. absolutely. professor, thanks for coming on. have a great weekend. >> you too. melissa: so here's the question of the day, will president obama get a bump in the polls next week because of today's jobs report? we want to hear what you think. like us on facebook a
for mitt romney, and it's generally not helpful for the level of intellect on our national discourse right now. >> you know, anne, i've been talking to people on both sides of this thing. let's clear it up right now. because this whole conspiracy, in my experience, in the past 24 hours, has been met with a collective eye roll from people who are democrats and republicans. is there any way the obama administration could actually have cooked up these numbers? >> uh, in a short answer, i would say no. i think the last president who was accused of, and where there was evidence that he tried to mess with the bureau of labor statistics was richard nixon. since then, it is a bureau full of professionals and i think that jonathan is exactly right. we would know if there was some funny business going on there. not to mention that if they were going to cook the books, wouldn't they have done it months ago when it would have more of an impact, and wouldn't they have said the unemployment rate is, i don't know, 4%. it seems extremely far fetched. i would be shocked if we eventually discovered they had
to washington for more. >> reporter: good morning. that's right. mitt romney will continue -- contrast his foreign policy vision with that of president obama's today. now this is amid questions about the u.s. embassy attack in libya last month. meantime president obama is reaching out to hollywood for support. president obama is raising more cash in california today. last night at a star studded los angeles fundraiser the president joked about his lackluster debate performance following songs from katie perry and stevie wonder. >> they perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> reporter: the president also accused his opponent mitt romney of backing away from campaign promises. >> obviously the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular so a few weeks before this election he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: romney is in virginia today for a rally and what is being called a major foreign policy address. excerpts from the speech have already been released. romney wants a change of course in the middle east including tougher sanctions
mitt romney? "varney & company" about to begin right now. follow the wings. >> it's tuesday, october 9th. earnings season starts after the bell today. the vice-president and the vice-presidential debate two days away and right now here is our company, sandra smith in studio and nicole petallides from the the floor of the new york stock exchange. guys, new polls from pew research shows a big post debate bounce for mitt romney. the broadest poll of all voters has romney with a 4 point lead and this was taken for four days starting with the debate. the day after the debate now. the previous poll had president obama with an 8 point lead, but the swing that's more pronounced is among women. it's a major, major thing, and 47-47. that's a 18 point swing from the previous poll. on to another area where mitt romney is catching up on money, goldman sachs employees, they gave more than a million dollars to obama in 2008. and they've only given them $136,000, on the other hand goldman sachs employees have given mitt romney 900,000, and more to the super pac. so, sandra, lots of signs point to go a
and give a foreign policy speech right before the election? >> yes. mitt romney has been aggressively pursuing the foreign policy area because he thinks the president is vulnerable. yes, the president did manage to kill osama bin laden on his watch, but in certain other areas the romney folks if you listen to all of the national security advisers, the foreign policy advisers, they think the president is very vulnerable, especially the notion of leading from behind. they say a romney administration would not lead from behind but rather lead from out front, and they're going to go after the president aggressively. you will see this in the course of romney's address which has been very carefully prepared and carefully written and you certain saw to a certain degree when romney did his overseas trip over the summer when he went to britain and then to england and then israel and then he went to poland and the series of speeches he delivered were pretty tough on the president even though he was reluctant to overly criticize the president overseas. the message certainly came through and cert
perfectly, right? i mean, here is the problem, again, so you heard this idea from romney, but i didn't hear how that math is going to add up, and we're not going to hear how that math is going to add up because it doesn't add up. this is part of what i think the obama campaign needs to do is to remind voters that this is the rhetoric we're hearing from mitt romney because he will say anything, whatever audience he's in front of, he'll say what it is he thinks that that audience wants to hear. notice while he was in iowa, he didn't talk about wind energy tax credits which is an issue for him in a number of key states. in ohio he probably won't talk about how he was on the wrong side of a labor issue last year that was a big deal to many ohioans. and he won't talk about how he said the auto industry should just go under. i think continuing to remind people, you know, the rest of the story is awfully important here. >> david, i'm beginning to run out of taxes that this man is going to cut. can you work out the math of this? does it make any sense? >> the math, i hate to tell you this, is not i
worry right now with defense cuts. >> the polls give mitt romney high marks for winning over voters -- women voters in the last debate. they say in terms of barack obama, he needs to convince women to give him one more chance and the belief that the years will be better than the last. years will be better than the last. withll talk david smallwood: maryland money needs to stay in marylan it's just that simple, i mean, it's a no brainer. anncr: every year marylanders spend five hundred and fifty... million at casinos in west virginia, delaware... and pennsylvania. one west virginia paper calls it a "cash cow" for them. but its cost maryland over one billion dollars. ney that could have created good jobs and... better schools for us. question seven keepsps maryland money in maryland. david allwood: question seven, i think it will be a... good thing for the state off maryland. am i don't know. any medications? last immunization shots? really? honey, what's my blood pressure medicine called? one time i took something and i blew up like a puffer fish. i'm probably allergic to that. at ka
it's the right way to encourage economic growth. >> in fact, romney hasn't specified a single (bleep)ing deduction! ten largest current individual tax breaks totaling $4842 billion a year for elimination, not one. dude couldn't be more vague if he were an hbo season finale. boom! boom! (cheers and applause) take that "hung" season 3. (laughter) how could he they not let us know what ray is going to do next with his giant dong? (laughter) well, you can't expect romney to lay out a specific plan with numbers and budgets. he's not a businessman, he's -- sorry? (laughter) we need a numbers guy. >> those of you who know me, i'm kind of a numbers guy. >> jon: there he is! the capitol hill accountant! the wonk from wisconsin. the mathematician from -- madison's general vicente fox cindy. lay it on us, numbers guy. how do we know the romney/ryan fiscal plan will work? >> i've run the numbers in congress, they do. >> jon: okay. (laughter) so what are the numbers? >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> you haven't given me ma
the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that is part of the plan. >> but he won't say, chris, which loopholes and which deductions. senator, i doubt seriously you would be if favor of doing away or cutting the home mortgage deduction for middle class americans. governor romney has not said what the plan is for paying for the $5 trillion in tax cuts just like he won't talk about what his tax returns have been or -- >> with all due reis spect, governor, first of all, governor romney made is clear in the debate and he was actually able to speak directly to the american people that he is not going to lower the burdening on up youer income individuals. we know that upper income individuals rely more heavily on deductions and he will give the relief on the middle class and it will be deficit neutral. one of the best lines of the debate was i have five sons and you can tell the story i'm used to hearing the story five times and having me believing it to be true but we know it is not true what they are saying about h
him to choose between romney and his right wing cotillion, it will kill him. middle him. that would be my strategy. every single question you're asked, joe biden, force your opponent to decide is he going to be loyal to his personhood amendment, to his vouchers, to all that other stuff, or is he loyal to maybe winning this election. my belief is he hasn't decide fd waents to win this election or the next one on his own. he may be closer to the presidency if he loses this time than if he wins it. you you have to get into the mind, the very, very ambitious mind, of paul ryan. they're very nixsonian, they're thinking of the future, work them. >> chuck, i watched you valiantly attempt to get dan to explain how paul ryan is going to disassociate his callous budget from mitt romney's economic plan, but isn't the point of paul ryan on this ticket that he is the severe conservative? i mean, who will turn up tonight, the paul ryan as described by chris matthews or will it be the paul ryan infected by moderate massachusetts mitt romney? >> well, i think what you heard this morning when i aske
doesn't believe in a woman's right to choose and -- >> he doesn't even agree with romney. when he said in a romney administration here's what position would be. that's not his position. he's actually more extreme than governor romney. >> he was the one sponsoring amendments with -- >> legitimate rape, which i like biden got that in there too. >> that's a separate ding. >> ben, the math thing has always been a trick of late, the arithmetic has been tricky for ryan, i'm referring to interviews with brit hume and chris wallace where he didn't have enough time to explain the math and didn't want to get wonky, a math exchange, let's play this about the 20% across-the-board tax cut. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve these important preferences for middle class -- >> not mathematically. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden s
the right way. >> i always say what i mean. and so does romney. >> this morning both sides are claiming victory and, indeed, everything may change in the next five days when president obama and governor romney take the stage again. but what biden did give is the president -- gave the president a path throwing his detractors off the scent and leading his best friend on the path towards victory. franklin, as the new guy at the table, i ask you first, did vice president biden get the obama campaign back in a place it wants to be? >> well, i'm not sure he got them exactly in the place where they want to be, but i think that he did help stem some of the damage. i think he made best bed wetting liberals like myself feel much better, that they had regained some of its offensive juju and weren't going to roll over why the rejuvenated romney walloped them. >> what was your assessment of paul ryan overall? we're going to get to specific sound but in terms of paul ryan and his debate skills last night, what -- how do you grade limb? >> i think what people are looking for when they are going to wat
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